Prophetic Turbulence

As I detailed in a previous podcast Julie Green dropped a bombshell when she said that God told her that Vice President JD Vance was a wolf in sheep’s clothing. I knew it would be controversial and it was. One reason was the views of people and the modern day prophecy movement and what is and isn’t false prophet. I addressed that issue in a subsequent podcast so if you want to know what the Bible has to say on that feel free to watch it. My intent this time around isn’t to address Green’s prophetic word about Vance or her standing as a prophet. Instead, I am going to note that Julie Green isn’t the only prophetic voice to single out the Vice President so we need to realize that God may very well be speaking to His servants the prophets after all as we’re told in Amos 3:7:

Surely the Lord God will do nothing without revealing His secret to His servants the prophets. (AMPC)

Many of you in the comments in that podcast last week told me about other prophetic words given where God told them Vance was not who he appeared to be. Many of them were more detailed and pointed than Green was by a long shot. So, without further ado let’s listen to some of these words. The first one is from Dr. Patricia Green.

Seek The Lord First

Dr. Patricia supported Julie Green before she addressed the Vance word. In the podcast she posted four days ago, she then tells us that before she addressed the Green prophecy she went to the Lord for counsel and used a verse in 1 Corinthians 14:29:

So let two or three prophets speak [those inspired to preach or teach], while the rest pay attention and weigh and discern what is said. (AMPC)

Then she explained what happened next:

So when I ask the Lord directly, I'm asking the Lord a direct question to confirm what Julie had posted in her video. The Lord did confirm to me that JD Vance was a traitor. So the message that I'm going to share with you is a result of what the Lord had given Julie Green, and because I was seeking the Lord for truth as his prophet. Okay. So that's the basis of this message.

She, too heard from God that Vance was, as she puts is a snake:

…this is what the Lord said, and he very clearly spoke this to me. He said, “JD Vance is a snake and has deep state connections.”

Well, that is a bombshell of an accusation, too. The God told her more details about him:

The deep state made an offer to JD Vance that he could not refuse. They promised him the presidency, and all he had to do was to secretly betray the president. But the Lord said the money will be uncovered and show who was behind this plan to make him president. “Every move they make is calculated,” says the Lord.

Now we have two prophetic voices saying the same overall thing. If you thought that revelation was strong, she heard even more.

Charlie Kirk Was Involved

Yes, Kirk was in the mix, but not like you might think:

And he said this: “Charlie Kirk was collateral damage for the deep state. The deep state used him to get JD Vance in the inner circle of Trump. But Charlie was not involved in the deep state. He was a pawn who they disposed of. When they took Charlie out, it was a calculated move to cover their tracks.

God revealed even more on that assassination:

“The killing of Charlie Kirk was a warning to the VP that if he did not play by their rules, they would take him out just like they did Charlie. The deep state is ruthless and once they have you in their back pocket, there is no way out unless you want to be in a grave.”

Holy conspiracy Batman! If accurate this is a very damning revelation. Dr. Pat said that the VP is so genial and God told her more actually comparing him to the Antichrist:

And after I heard that from the Lord—now listen, I'd already heard Julie Green's message, and I was asking the Lord to confirm it to me, and he did. And after he gave me that message, I began talking to the Lord and I said, “But Lord, JD Vance is so likable.”

And here's what the Lord said. He said, “JD Vance is likable, and that is the danger of the hidden deception. So will it be also with the antichrist. People will like him without knowing the deception behind him. Unless you come to me, the Lord God, in these last days, you will not know who is evil and from the enemy.”

She assured that Vance isn’t the Antichrist but still made the point of being deceived:

Now, in this last part of it, the Lord is not saying that JD Vance is the Antichrist, because I know some will incorrectly interpret that. What the Lord is warning is that we could be deceived because someone is likable, and that we must rely on him to show us who is truly evil in these last days.

Dr. Pat then went on to talk about President Trump and how she prays over him which I encourage you to listen to later. Now I turn to another prophetic voice who actually had a dream about the Trump assassination attempt in July of 2024 and who now had one about JD Vance among others:

Vance Becomes The President

The prophetic voice now is named Brandon Biggs and his dream is very detailed as well. He starts by saying that there will be a storm about Vance:

“…Monday night. I saw a lot that night. And so I saw uh Capitol Hill. I saw JD Vance that was black and white. Okay. He was black and white, but he had a humongous head that had a very skinny neck and his neck was not able to to balance his head. And he looked like his head was just bobbling all around… …as I was looking at the at the Capitol Hill, a massive peacock… looked down at towards JD Vance… …Marco Rubio was… looking at JD Vance with his bobblehead… …there was a massive storm around Congress. There was a massive storm around JD Vance and he… was the only thing that was in black and white…”

Bigg’s dream was filled with metaphors so it can be hard to know what God was telling him. He then mentioned an assassination attempt on President Trump that was done by a Russian sniper:

And I saw a man a long ways away with a 50 caliber uh weapon that had a scope on it that big. He had a black stalking hat. He had black shirt, black pants, back black combat boots. and he was laying on his belly focusing in. When I saw this incident happen, I saw the projectile go through his body and almost make him in like it was it was awful. The Secret Service didn't even know in this thing where where to go. And I'm telling you, this is this is very serious to me… But as I saw what I saw, I saw this this scope on this this this firearm that was that big. It was huge. And he was from a long ways. And he was, he was he was military trained and he was Russian.

So, Dr. Pat and this dream are connected now. Biggs then notes that Marco Rubio became the Vice President and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis took Rubio’s place. Then he saw the US retaliating against Europe for the assassination of Trump and a world war broke out. He said that Vance went along with the global agenda rather than continue to work of Trump. I advise you to listen to the whole thing but it is pretty long. Suffice it to say there are plans afoot to get rid of Trump sooner than later according to these words.

Vance Won’t Be President

The last prophetic voice is that of Troy Black. He had a word from God that he posted four months ago and it referred to Vance as well. He started saying he saw this:

So this is the word I heard about Vance. Okay—this was August 12th. I saw a vision from the Lord of an eagle, and I saw it rise up and spread its wings. And then I saw as the left wing got clipped—so one of the wings got like somebody clipped it to where it wouldn’t be able to fly correctly. And then I heard this word: the wing, and some tail feathers too. And I believe that potentially represents two different people in the government. But then I heard: a clipping is occurring. This is a right-hand man losing his position of authority for certain reasons—losing his ability to continue in the same vein that he is currently operating within.

He then heard an explanation for the word:

Then I heard this kind of as an explanation: I heard Vance is losing his capacity, to an extent—his effectiveness. Then I heard something major. Something that is seen as drastic will occur. And then I heard: don’t be burdened or shocked by this. Don’t be burdened or shocked by this.

So the Lord is not trying to shock us today, but he’s trying to keep us from being shocked when whatever this is happens, happens.

Black then heard some other things:

Then I heard the phrase: this is in the next year and a half. And I heard something is going to happen where he will cease to operate at the same capacity as before—a hitch no one saw coming. Then I heard this phrase, and I believe it may give some clue into maybe some of the reasons why. I’m not really sure there, but the phrase I heard was: his capacity as senator. So before he was the vice president for a season, Vance was a senator. So the Lord may be referring to something that’s related to something that happened while he was senator. I don’t know.

Does this mean that Vance won’t be Vice President because of deal that was made prior to becoming the Vice President as Dr. Pat mentions? We don’t really know. That’s the way prophecy works and as I’ve mentioned in the past it’s the interpretation that usually confuses things. Black was careful to make sure we knew that he just delivered the word and for us to pray about it and then let God reveal more.

Who’s Right?

Well, the real answer is God. I think these prophetic voices are trying to reveal things to us and we need to not spurn these words as foolishness like those who aren’t Christians are doing now. Biggs told us that his dream doesn’t have to come to pass, that it wasn’t written in stone. He strongly told the Church to pray and said that God showed him that if it does come to pass it will be because we didn’t pray against it. That is Biblical and we see instances of it all throughout the Old Testament. And I think that’s the real takeaway in all this both with Julie Green, Dr. Pat, Brandon Biggs, and Troy Black. God wants His people to pray for the best outcome here for all people. If we spend our time bickering, calling each other names, accusing these prophetic voices of being false prophets or worse we will waste precious time seeking God’s face and His wisdom for the times we’re living in. The prophetic servants are simply repeating what they hear and it’s up to us to pray for them, discern the words and let those who these people are accountable to counsel them. Biggs does that and Julie Green does that as well at least from what I’ve heard them say. It’s good advice to pray first and then post later if at all. Prophecy isn’t meant to scare us, but to prepare us. We can intercede based on these peeks into the future and be a part of what God wants to happen. Are you going to pray?